http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/feeds/rss/comments/7 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:26:13 -0400 Zend_Feed http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-19 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-19 Fri, 20 May 2005 15:00:59 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-20 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-20 I like the smooth fluffy navigation through the different character sets, although, I admit, I don’t really get the idea behind all this, besides entertainment. What kind of information would you add to the wiki (besides more sets)?]]> I like the smooth fluffy navigation through the different character sets, although, I admit, I don’t really get the idea behind all this, besides entertainment. What kind of information would you add to the wiki (besides more sets)?]]> Fri, 20 May 2005 15:14:57 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-139 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-139 this site, or rather documentation, by accident. Useful for all kinds of utf8 conversion and replacement crapola.]]> this site, or rather documentation, by accident. Useful for all kinds of utf8 conversion and replacement crapola.]]> Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:26 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-153 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-153
I used Homesite from 3.0 to 5.5 for years, but finally ditched it because of lack of unicode support. The HomeSite web page also admits that it doesn’t save Unicode (though not checked in about 6 months now).

I switched to JEdit (http://www.jedit.org) as it is also cross platform, and highly customizeable.

One issue with the BOM problem I have found is that if you are using server side processing, e.g. ASP and XML/XSL without output set to UTF-8, it tends not to be a problem.]]>
I used Homesite from 3.0 to 5.5 for years, but finally ditched it because of lack of unicode support. The HomeSite web page also admits that it doesn’t save Unicode (though not checked in about 6 months now).

I switched to JEdit (http://www.jedit.org) as it is also cross platform, and highly customizeable.

One issue with the BOM problem I have found is that if you are using server side processing, e.g. ASP and XML/XSL without output set to UTF-8, it tends not to be a problem.]]> Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:26:06 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-157 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-157 Apart from that I didn’t really find a nice editor that supports UTF-8. Notepad does! Editpad is nice as well, I use the Edit pad lite as notepad replacement. And oviously Ultraedit supports UTF-8 and UTF-16.
A nice tool for XSLT work is Cooktop.]]> Apart from that I didn’t really find a nice editor that supports UTF-8. Notepad does! Editpad is nice as well, I use the Edit pad lite as notepad replacement. And oviously Ultraedit supports UTF-8 and UTF-16.
A nice tool for XSLT work is Cooktop.]]> Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:48:36 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-230 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-230
I have a question, which I’m hoping you can help shed some light on.

I’m just about to create a multilingual website, but very confused about the whole issue regarding UTF-8 characters.

For instance, I am about to create a webpage to display the following language titles in their own language:

Albanian
Amharic
Arabic
Czech
Farsi
French
Kurdish
Lingala
Mandarin
Pashto
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Somali
Sorani
Spanish
Tamil
Tigrinya
Turkish

Is this possible at all using plain text? Also, if a computer hasn’t got the language set installed I presume it will not display properly?

To make sure that all the text is displayed properly is the best way then to use .GIFs? I however, aware that this is not accessible.

Hope you can point me in the right direction.

Regards,
Nicholas]]>
I have a question, which I’m hoping you can help shed some light on.

I’m just about to create a multilingual website, but very confused about the whole issue regarding UTF-8 characters.

For instance, I am about to create a webpage to display the following language titles in their own language:

Albanian
Amharic
Arabic
Czech
Farsi
French
Kurdish
Lingala
Mandarin
Pashto
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Somali
Sorani
Spanish
Tamil
Tigrinya
Turkish

Is this possible at all using plain text? Also, if a computer hasn’t got the language set installed I presume it will not display properly?

To make sure that all the text is displayed properly is the best way then to use .GIFs? I however, aware that this is not accessible.

Hope you can point me in the right direction.

Regards,
Nicholas]]> Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:13:24 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-231 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-231 theoretcially UTF-8 can display all these characters in one set. Obviously this would require the right fonts to display the pages correctly. You just need to make sure that you store your data the correct way and avoid conversions to ISO latin-1. And not forget about the doctype, as well.

Also there is a method to make a browser download the right font that I couldn’t test yet. But I guess this could work for your case.

The approach of replacing characters with GIFs to me sounds like a rediculous overhead that will be impossible to maintain.

Another way to deal with multiple languages is to set each language version to a different language charset.
But as you can see in the page I posted the w3c reommends UTF-8 since it is so much more versatile.

If you have any questions let me know.]]> theoretcially UTF-8 can display all these characters in one set. Obviously this would require the right fonts to display the pages correctly. You just need to make sure that you store your data the correct way and avoid conversions to ISO latin-1. And not forget about the doctype, as well.

Also there is a method to make a browser download the right font that I couldn’t test yet. But I guess this could work for your case.

The approach of replacing characters with GIFs to me sounds like a rediculous overhead that will be impossible to maintain.

Another way to deal with multiple languages is to set each language version to a different language charset.
But as you can see in the page I posted the w3c reommends UTF-8 since it is so much more versatile.

If you have any questions let me know.]]> Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:55:59 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-233 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-233
I’ve never had to deal with this so I don’t know what’s best…]]>
I’ve never had to deal with this so I don’t know what’s best…]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:23:35 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-234 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-234
With regards to using UTF-8, I believe that not all the languages that I have specified are covered. Further the problem is that the majority of users will be using public web access (mainly libraries), which won’t allow the download of new character sets…

The idea Mike suggested doesn’t sound too bad. Any idea where to find more info and if this is feasible?]]>
With regards to using UTF-8, I believe that not all the languages that I have specified are covered. Further the problem is that the majority of users will be using public web access (mainly libraries), which won’t allow the download of new character sets…

The idea Mike suggested doesn’t sound too bad. Any idea where to find more info and if this is feasible?]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:12:51 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-235 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-235 www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/

The catch is that you’d have to find a font that supports all the characters you’re going to need to use. There are probably only one or two out there… If you can find one though, the rest is easy…]]> www.mikeindustries.com/sifr/

The catch is that you’d have to find a font that supports all the characters you’re going to need to use. There are probably only one or two out there… If you can find one though, the rest is easy…]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:22:56 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-236 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-236
The problem I see with sFIR is that the flash itself might not be able cope with the funny characters, but I’m not sure about that one. If the site is used from libraries and public spaces a plugin-based solution might be as bad as a missing font, since you wouldn’t be able to render the page without flash.

Just as a thought, and based on spectulation only:
If I am somali, I go to a UTF-8 page and my font is not specified, just serif, sans-serif or something like that, wouldn’t somlai copy automatically be rendered in the right font? Maybe the chinese wouldn’t be rendered at all, but would that matter to me as somali user?

I definetly know that Arial Unicode can handle chinese and japanese and cyrillic, so you might have a try with this one as well.]]>
The problem I see with sFIR is that the flash itself might not be able cope with the funny characters, but I’m not sure about that one. If the site is used from libraries and public spaces a plugin-based solution might be as bad as a missing font, since you wouldn’t be able to render the page without flash.

Just as a thought, and based on spectulation only:
If I am somali, I go to a UTF-8 page and my font is not specified, just serif, sans-serif or something like that, wouldn’t somlai copy automatically be rendered in the right font? Maybe the chinese wouldn’t be rendered at all, but would that matter to me as somali user?

I definetly know that Arial Unicode can handle chinese and japanese and cyrillic, so you might have a try with this one as well.]]> Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:27:04 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-237 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-237
Embedded fonts testpage]]>
Embedded fonts testpage]]> Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:11:38 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-247 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-247
http://juicystudio.com/article/utf-byte-order-mark.php

There are a couple of nice editor suggestions in there.
Have a read!]]>
http://juicystudio.com/article/utf-byte-order-mark.php

There are a couple of nice editor suggestions in there.
Have a read!]]> Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:13:14 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-380 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-380 Where do i enable it? i cant find it in settings. there is the editor charset but no utf-8 option.]]> Where do i enable it? i cant find it in settings. there is the editor charset but no utf-8 option.]]> Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:00:03 -0500 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-406 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-406 see this]]> see this]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:40:53 -0500 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-900 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-900 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:34:36 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-901 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-901 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 05:15:14 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1058 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1058
You meant notepad, right? Unfortunately Wordpad should be better than Notepad, but in this case it’s a lot worse :/]]>
You meant notepad, right? Unfortunately Wordpad should be better than Notepad, but in this case it’s a lot worse :/]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:27:21 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1064 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1064 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:59:56 -0400 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1832 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1832
The point is, system is already completed and has been deployed on many web sites. So if anyone can guide me that what should be the approach. I am not at all looking forward to re-write the whole thing again.

If you want to see the system its here
http://www.ecommerce-xperts.com/demo
http://www.ecommerce-xperts.com/demo/index2.php

I really need good suggestions plz. I have been given 1 months time to provide multilanguage support in this system]]>
The point is, system is already completed and has been deployed on many web sites. So if anyone can guide me that what should be the approach. I am not at all looking forward to re-write the whole thing again.

If you want to see the system its here
http://www.ecommerce-xperts.com/demo
http://www.ecommerce-xperts.com/demo/index2.php

I really need good suggestions plz. I have been given 1 months time to provide multilanguage support in this system]]> Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:48:45 -0500 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1835 http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/content/utf-8-documents-with-a-lot-of-character/#comment-1835
The description of what you wanna achieve is a bit vague. Often you don’t need to change much to enable UTF-8 based output and input.
This can be achieved most of the times by changing the charset meta tag or apache/php header for front and back end interfaces.

However, this doesn’t mean that the application itself will be multilanguage, plus, unless you change the database collation, you will loose some sorting possibility as well.

To incorporate true language support for every button and label you will have to work with configurations in some way, I am afraid, either in a config file or a database.]]>
The description of what you wanna achieve is a bit vague. Often you don’t need to change much to enable UTF-8 based output and input.
This can be achieved most of the times by changing the charset meta tag or apache/php header for front and back end interfaces.

However, this doesn’t mean that the application itself will be multilanguage, plus, unless you change the database collation, you will loose some sorting possibility as well.

To incorporate true language support for every button and label you will have to work with configurations in some way, I am afraid, either in a config file or a database.]]> Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:41:48 -0500